Let me break it down
SICARAN- 135 pts. 13/12/12. 3 Hull Points. Fast Tank. Hull mounted Heavy Bolter. Extra armour comes along with smoke and searchlight. And then there is the TL Accelerator Cannon. 48" S7 AP4 Heavy 6, Rending, No jink saves allowed. It can have Heavy Bolter and Lascannon Sponsons for the same cost as a predator.
BAAL PREDATOR- 115 pts. 13/11/10. 3 Hull Points. Fast Tank. Smoke and Searchlight. TL Assault Cannon. 24" S6, AP4 Heavy 4 Rending. May exchange Assault cannon for Flamestorm for free. Spons HB or Heavy Flamer for 20 ea.
And just for final comparison...
PREDATOR- 75pts. Same stats as Baal, except +10pts for fast. Autocannon main gun or TL Lascannon for +25. Same sponson options as Sicaran at the same cost. SO if we make this a fast vehicle like the other two and give it all lascannons it is 150 pts. To make it comprable to a basic Sicaran and Baal though, I will just say fast with a TL Lascannon, putting it at 110, 130 is you add HB to try and equal the volume of firepower of the other two.
SOOOOOOO I hope you can see just how Superior the Sicaran is. For only 20 points over the Baal it has 2 more points of armour on the sides and 3 on the rear. That alone is worth 20 points or more. BUT add to that Extra Armour Standard (a 10 point upgrade for regular tanks) and an extra Heavy Bolter (for comparison it costs only 15 pts to pintle mount a Heavy Bolter on an SM Superheavy). SO lets say a hull mounted HB costs 10 points since it can't swivel like a pintle. THAT ALONE would be a value of 20 points. So now we have accepted that the upgrades are already worth more, BUT IT DOES NOT STOP THERE. The Accelerator Cannon IS AMAZING. NO jink saves is death to bike or skimmer heavy armies (Eldar, DE, White Scars, DA) and add to that rending. Now consider it has 2 more shots than an assault cannon, at one point higher strength AT DOUBLE THE RANGE!!! Whaaaat?
The only reason to take a Baal over a Sicaran is to take the Flamestorm and Heavy Flamers for city fight or against MEQ armies with alot of 3+ Saves. If the BAAL still had Scout I would understand the point cost of it, but I feel like that rule was removed without considering how much it costed (remember a TL Las Fast Pred is only 110, 5 pts less than a Baal with a TL Assault Cannon, which should cost less than Las IMO).
|None of the tanks in this are mine, but this is just awesome.|
I think I have sufficiently proven the Sicaran is undercosted. I think 150 to 160 base would be better. I usually don't think FW rules are overpowered, however in this case I cannot help but admit it.